Political Participation - Discussing Thinking Muslim 's advice

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Title: Political Participation - Discussing Thinking Muslim's advice

Description and timestamps:

0:00:17 - 00:09:55 Intro:
Presenting Key points of Muhammad Jalal of Thinking Muslims' Article/strategy

00:09:56
Dr Massasri's initial analysis:
- Reaction to bankruptcy of left
-Dates back to Ikhwani view
-History of British society
-Real power lies with the people - shariah endorses this idea
-Situation of a Muslim minority, relation to society
-Shallow understanding of Islam

00:20:00
Islam remains, but in literature and books,
- Current understanding of governance is not the model of Prophet and Khulafah Rashideen in relation to ruling/state/authority
- Since Muawiyyah the narrative of Obedience to the Ruler advanced
- Scholarship soldout
- Majority of munafiqeen in scholarship
- Public Affairs, left people's focus
- Hadith - Knots of Islam will be untied
- Ruling is a fundamental part of islam

00:23:25
Requirement to have continuous fiqh, derived from shariah, very few scholars had this clear in the mind

00:24:01 - Muslim Landscape in UK
Background Muslim immigrants had limited education, little vision
- Third generation, muslims started to have significant numbers capable of influencing elections
- Eg Birmingham, East London
- Leftist recognised that Muslims could be rallied
- 90s Muslim movements matured - Ikhwan/Jama
- HT/Jihadi rebukation of democracy

00:29:52
Resulting in Discussion and a requirement for theory on how to participate in a domain of kufr

00:31:41
Explanation of Shariah Injunctions - if they join, not allowed to rule by kufr
- Parliament/Westminister - participate in ruling/legislation
- Not necessarily the case with local government
- Spurred Discussion on justifications - eg Najasi, Yusuf AS
- If you rule, must rule by Islam and with justice, no liberty to do otherwise
- Before vision for state was a minimalistic state

00:37:20
Are you allowed to participate?
- If you participate, must have aclear agenda as an independent
- If you join Parliament you can use it as platform to spread Islam/put Islamic view, and anything unislamic, you don’t vote for it
- You will always be in opposition/using it as a platform

38:40
What is the function of a Muslim under Kufr rule
- No obligation to obey
- Just be at a state of peace

Hereditary monarchy is impossible as power does not go back to the people

42:07
In domain of kufr what do we do?
- Oppose integration, interact
- No need to be reactionary/punish
- Carry dawah
- Can not rule by kufr
Labour's stance in relation to Gaza is due to their belief about reality

00:47:17 Jalal's advice is tactically good
At moment it's a good tactic, i.e. to punish, however it's not the way it should be, better to abstain and form our own independent party

00:49:33
On Jalal's idea of not representing a party, and having independent candidates and accusation of being a 5th column
- What do they mean by being a 5th Column, we are an international creed

00:52:05
Reason stated for Independents is not persuasive, could be a party, they must be told they will never vote for any unislamic injunction
- And always criticise laws and regulation and offer Islamic solution
- Pre-requisite, they would need to be sufficiently Islamically educated

00:53:49
Professor's Recommendation, abstain, how to get more control in local government, school boards etc

01:00:00
First stage is activating the people
Educate people ideologically

01:02:40
Alternative to voting, direct action to secure rights
Being outside the system

01:03:20
Many who advocate for voting, could have desire for power
Some think they can serve islam-example of Erdogan being constrained by the system